Thread: Sorry but she should be gone.

Originally Posted by Guyver

You're assuming that JUST because they were here illegally, they had the accident. They could've been in good standing and still had the accident. So, why add more insult to horrific injury? What possible negative could come from letting her stay?

I'm not assuming that they had the accident because they were here illegally. I'm simply saying that were they not here, it would have been physically impossible for them to have been in the accident.

Originally Posted by Xavsnipe

Morningfrost, if I ever see you in person, I´ll kick the fucking shit out of you.

I'm terrified.

Originally Posted by Solstatic

It's impossible to have a discussion when your opponent is essentially sticking their fingers in their ears and screaming "NO NO NO", we have brought up reasons why she should stay, but all you keep saying is just that the laws cannot be bent or broken. I do believe I mentioned extenuating circumstances. If you want a discussion then please add a bit more to the conversation. Explain to me how someone who has lived here her entire life, has no home or family in her country of origin to our knowledge, never consciously chose to break the law, and is a minor shouldn't qualify as an extenuating circumstance.

The laws can be bent, sure, but the problem is as long as the cases that garner media attention are solved by bending the rules, the odds of people getting off their ass and fixing the underlying problem (the fact that the laws are outdated and useless) are pretty slim. This girl's case hit the airwaves and an exception was made for her because of the tragedy that occurred. Ok fine, I can live with that. Still, the laws themselves need to be reviewed and changed, and until a high-profile case like this is handled exactly by rule of messed-up law, few people will acknowledge that things are wrong enough that they need to be changed. Instead, they'll sit on their couch feeling great about themselves and the country because that girl got to stay.

It's entirely possible that if the girl were deported based upon the rule of law (or at least the decision was made to do so) that the high-profile nature of the case would have made people complain enough for the laws to actually be reviewed and revamped in a useful way. We don't need exceptions to laws, we need laws that are actually useful and relevant....and sometimes, unfortunately, 1 person has to suffer in the cause of the "bigger picture."

Originally Posted by Morningfrost

I'm not assuming that they had the accident because they were here illegally. I'm simply saying that were they not here, it would have been physically impossible for them to have been in the accident.

Almighty Revealer of the Obvious. How does stating the painfully obvious help your argument?

Originally Posted by Xavsnipe

Almighty Revealer of the Obvious. How does stating the painfully obvious help your argument?

It doesn't, really, but I was being accused of assuming they had the accident solely because they were here illegally.

I was going to respond to these last night, but...

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Plus theres plenty of prostitution right here in the USA yet millions of kids manage to stay off their back.

You need to do some research. Brazil has one of worst child sex trafficking records, second only to Thailand.

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Im not pissed off at all. Hence why my orginal post was worded the way it was.

Pissed off..upset, call it what you will. You posted the topic, so it stands to reason that you're upset about it. That's a bit repugnant in itself.

Originally Posted by Guyver

I was going to respond to these last night, but...
You need to do some research. Brazil has one of worst child sex trafficking records, second only to Thailand.
Pissed off..upset, call it what you will. You posted the topic, so it stands to reason that you're upset about it. That's a bit repugnant in itself.

I dont post many things because it pissed me off. 99% of what i post is because i feel its worth a discussion. I dont live like you do driven by my emotions. Funny part about your comment is people who know me in real life know it would take time to find a more passive person then me.

Back on topic...

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I'm just wondering... why this is up... this topic was clearly to get a rise out of people....

Deportation is definitely a bad topic to talk about in forums...

You get bad reactions... I'm looking at this and yeah I'm already seeing high drama which is going to cause tension.... this wasn't even informative with out a huge disgust factor...

Originally Posted by Mobiusxg5

I'm just wondering... why this is up... this topic was clearly to get a rise out of people....

Deportation is definitely a bad topic to talk about in forums...

You get bad reactions... I'm looking at this and yeah I'm already seeing high drama which is going to cause tension.... this wasn't even informative with out a huge disgust factor...

Well to quote the name of the forum section...

News, Politics, Religion, and Other High Drama

dgod loves to play with puppies all day long.

Originally Posted by Xavsnipe

dgod loves to play with puppies all day long.

Wouldn't have 4 of them if i didnt.