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    The Art of War: J10 Chapter

    If you’ve sat behind the controls of the J10 in BF2, you’ve like discovered what a raging overpower dog fighter it can be. If you turned your cross hairs towards ground targets, you’ve likely discovered what a bitch it is to take down armor. In real life the J10 is designed as an air to air combat vehicle. The developers reflected this reality and designed the J10 to work great in the air but poorly on the ground targets.


    The main reason the J10 is held back against ground targets is the position of its bombs. The J10 has its left and right bomb fix far apart on the mid-section of the wings. When release, this translates to the bombs landing part of each other. The second issues is open to debate but many believe that there is a increase in release time between the first and second bomb. Basically, the J10 drops one bomb, holds for a split second then releases the second bomb. The combination of those to issues translates the a J10 dropping its first bomb behind and to the right. of the target, while the other lands in front and to the left.



    The Euro fighter requires a special move to get an accurate bombing strike. [Link below]
    The Typhoon Euro fighter is designed similar to the J10. This, similar design means you are going to need to pull a trick to get your J10 bombs to be accurate. The trick to getting the Euro fighter to bomb accurately is to roll the jet on its side right after hitting the release button. This move changed to trajectory of the second bomb and lines it up directly behind the first bomb, rather than to the left of the first bomb.


    The J10 requires a similar move to the Euro fighter. You must roll to the jet, placing your right wing pointing upwards and your left wing down towards the ground. This is not Star Fox, so if you hear a voice screaming “Do a barrel roll!” STOP! You only want to dip the wings, you don’t want to complete a barrel roll.



    Now, there is a second step for the J10. The fist step will line up both bombs on the X axis. You still need to solve the to problem of the release delay. For those who do not remember physics class, if you release two objects from plane while it is in motion, the vectors of the two objects will be offset. Simply, because you are releasing the bombs at different times and your jet is moving roughly 1400 meters per second, you bombs are going to land in different position on the Y axis.


    The way you fix the issue along the Y axis is the technique is first exposed folks too with my first article. I call this move a tail flick. All you do is dip the nose of the jet right after you his the release button. For the F35, Mig 29, and F18 simply require the dip to be accurate, but for the J10 you are going to need to roll and dip at the same time. This will be difficult and requires practice.

    Here is a video where I demonstrate a first person view of what the dip looks like form inside the cockpit. If perform a fly by of the target area to prove that the tanks I am bombing are brand new tanks with full health.

    The move happens rather fast and its difficult to notice the dip but I assure you, the dip is taking place. Notice the cross hairs as I perform the roll and you will see how far you have to roll.

    Practice this move with fixed targets. Choppers on a heli-pad are useful because they have a large grey square to see the target form a distance and there is often plenty of room for you to fly in close.

    You will also need to practice your release altitude. The video makes it difficult to tell the exact point where I release the bombs because the sound is not links perfectly with the video. The rough height is an altitude of about 100 to 120. However, I don’t fly staring at how indicators. Over time I have developed an eye for the proper time to release. You too will need to learn how to judge a targets distance and which direction your target is heading. Only then will you know were to drop the bombs. This information will help you hit a point accurately, but it does not matter how accurate you are at hitting that point if the enemy isn’t there.

    This brings me to my next tip, aiming. With these moves for the J10, you will need to line up your target in a certain position. This point is different then the one I show in my general BF2 bombing article. [Link below]

    This images shows exactly where you will need to aim for.

    Everything I have explain here is going to take time to perfect. Having this knowledge does not make you automatically great, this is simply the path to great bombing.

    So read, understand, practice, and perfect. And, keep fearing the sky.








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    Re: The Art of War: J10 Chapter

    Well this is pretty much it, but i think adjustments would need to be made to pharagraphs to make then more balanced.
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    my suggstions: the easiest thing to do with the j10 is to drop 1 bomb at a time. 1 bomb has pretty much the same effect as two (that is rendering the tank useless or very near useless) and it leaves you with another for another target.

    also, the issue isn't really the separation of bombs (although a factor), it's mostly the release timing. to mitigate the release timing, just increase the attack angle (assume in your drawing above you approach at 45 degrees or more). the 'dip' method will also do the trick.

    nice article and great visuals.
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    The average player is going to have trouble flying straight down on a target, releaseing, then pulling out of the freefall. Also your single drop method works, if you don't want to kill the tank. If you are flying in and see a tank has been shot with and AT shot, you may be able to destroy it with a single. But you are still open to someone hopping out and repairing. Or if they stay in, they can take down more of your infentry, while you loop around for the next drop.
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    Nice little thing if u dont mind i might make one about the f-35 and mig

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    Feel free to compair it to mine, I would be interested in knowing of any other methods.
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    Re: The Art of War: J10 Chapter

    Might try to cut down your images by one or 2. Also, you misspelled "right" in one of your diagram images


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    HA, nice, okay I'll work on fixing those. Now, how is this going to work with out the editing tool I used to submite my other articles? As far as moving images in and structuring the paragraphs. You know making it purrdie.
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    You can actually do that right here in your post, and once it is ready enough to take to further edititing, I just promote it to an article and we editors make some refining touches if need be, but most of it can be done right here before that ever happens.

    When you go into "edit post" mode, place the cursor on the upper left of the image.. a small pencil icon will appear in the corner.. click that and a window opens to give you the image display options.. from there you can set the image's alignment (left, right or center) and display size (thumbnail, medium, large, full size.. we prefer they be thumbnail or medium). Once you choose those options, click "save". The image (once the post's changes are saved) will display as you set it to, and any images that you've set to display smaller, will pop up an in-window viewer to see the image at full size when you mouse-over it.


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    Well, im not seeing the pencil, and I can't seem to upload images at this time so I will tend to this later tonight.
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